Do what Clover says?
Posted on 13. Apr, 2012 by BrentP in Instructional
Clover says it is perfectly acceptable to veer into a turn lane and any other vehicle in that turn lane no matter how far behind must avoid.
Well Clover, I know better so I didn’t test your theory with this semi-truck. When will Clover put its money where its mouth is and veer into a turn lane in front of a semi tractor trailer truck?
BrentP,
You need to show that semi-truck driver who is boss of the road. Even if your car becomes a pancake, you need to stand up as the king of the road.
I think that most people that visit these boards recognize that clover is a troll. Clover should be a fiction writer given the amount of fiction and outlandish ideas he posts on these boards. If clover drove as he claims, he should buy a lottery ticket. He must be one of the luckiest people on the planet. If I drove as clover claims to drive, my car would have been crushed by a semi-truck and I would be in the hospital or morgue.
Clover needs to stay under his bridge and reflect on his ways.
mith those are troll statements. Crawl under your hole.
I hope you get that book contract soon. The fiction that you write is out of this world.
No need to crawl under any hole. I prefer to use the door to enter the hole to my abode.
If Brent drove as he claims he would have many run-ins with other drivers and many near accidents and accidents and a lot of standing on his horn warning other drivers, here comes Brent, look out. Oh, that is what we see in the videos.
Space conflicts is what happens when you follow written rules and follow principles in a land full of emotionally and socially driven clovers. People like you are lazy, unprincipled, and selfish.
Brent if you were not breaking the laws that you do there would be none of your run-ins with other drivers. Think about it, the left turn lane incident could not have happened if you followed the government rules of the road. Every conflict that you have had involves thing like tailgating, speeding or just plain road rage without any other rules broken. You disagree with the rules that we have that would keep you from conflicts but if someone drives too slowly or turns two seconds later than Brent required they deserve the rage of Brent. It all comes back to the fact that Brent is one of the worst drivers on the highway. He picks and chooses his own rules so he can bring the wrath of Brent on other drivers.
I followed all the written rules. The other driver did not. Been over this multiple times.
What I don’t follow is your social willy-nilly lazy driver don’t care what’s behind clover rules that change with every last situation. That’s the point of the this video. To get you to display your true nature and you did. When the situation is reversed you change your rules. Suddenly it’s not ok to cross the solid yellow line close to the front of another vehicle while moving slower (after having braked). You demonstrated the clover law perfectly when you did your 360 degree reversal of your previous arguments simply because my location on the road was now where the driver of the black car was in the previous video.
You have no principles Clover. You’re just someone who ‘feels’. You don’t like me so you ‘feel’ that I must always be in the wrong. You’re the kind of person the government loves to have on a jury because all they have to do is make the defendant out to be someone you wouldn’t like and you’ll vote guilty. Because you feel instead of think and are without principle to stop you.
“You disagree with the rules that we have that would keep you from conflicts but if someone drives too slowly or turns two seconds later than Brent required they deserve the rage of Brent. It all comes back to the fact that Brent is one of the worst drivers on the highway. He picks and chooses his own rules so he can bring the wrath of Brent on other drivers.”
Once again Clover lies. Can’t tell what it ‘feels’ from reality.
No Brent it is not that I feel you are a poor driver you have proven it. When you break laws so that it then makes it possible to have an accident when it otherwise would have been impossible then I know you are a poor driver. I know you never break speeding laws, tailgating laws, you always use your turn signal 100 feet before you switch lanes, you always allow other drivers to turn when they are in front of you and are using their signal. I know Brent you are dang perfect. Now that I have repeated everything that you say, do you want to hear the truth? I would say someone that breaks laws has no room to talk when they say that others do not. Your laws that you break have shown that they cause confrontations with other vehicles.
This babble above makes no sense.
It’s you who thinks a turn signal grants right of way, it doesn’t.
I don’t break the rules of right of way. The only way a collision can occur is if someone does. If you don’t understand that velocity has nothing to do with collisions but only collision severity, then you are hopelessly ignorant. Velocity does not create a collision course, ignoring the rules of right of way does. That’s why clovers fixate on speed, they wish to disregard the rules of right of way because they are lazy. In order to disregard the rules of right of way speeds must be reduced in order to reduce the severity of the inevitable collisions that result.
I’ve had interesting interactions with clovers on the road. A driver runs a stop sign and nearly hits me… then accuses me of going to fast. That’s the standard of the clover. I’ve been accused of speeding on a bicycle in such instances. In all instances, driving and bicycling I was within the legal limit, which when the clovers were so informed claimed I was still going too fast even if it was legal. Why? Because clovers don’t want to follow the rules of right of way. They want their way. They want to be lazy. They want other people to take the responsibility. They change lanes and disregard traffic control devices as they see fit. When it nearly causes a collision they blame the other person. Why? Because they have no principles, just like Clover here. They make their judgments on what they feel about the person, not what they did. Of course they always put themselves above the other person.
This is what we see here. Clover has two sets of rules. When I am in the turn lane it’s legal for another driver to cross the solid white line and cut me off. When I am outside the turn lane it would be illegal for me to cross the solid white line and cut off another driver. Clover doesn’t like me and that is the standard used. No independent principles. Just feelings and social standing. Someone a clover likes could through war murder millions of people and a clover wouldn’t think of him being guilty of war crimes. Someone a clover doesn’t like doing the exact same thing but then his trial and punishment would be demanded. This is why the USA is the way it is. Feelings in the moment. No principles.
BrentP,
Apparently you need to be a mind reader to tell when a clover feels the need to jump in front of you.
Inconsistent driving behavior is hazardous to all drivers. The goal of consistent and predictable behavior is one reason for rules of the road and right of way.
Clovers often have a degree of internal consistency, their behavior is often predictable, it’s just not consistent with the law. Clovers also want the law to be social, to apply to people other than them. Clovers like law to be what it is when they say it is. Hence why government rule in this nation has regressed to the 11th century. Laws are now whatever those in power say they are when they say it. Just the way the clovers do it.
Brent you forget I am all for following the laws. If you would follow a few we would all be better off.
One question, if you say that you believe you do not have to follow certain laws and because of this others need to look out for you, why can’t everyone say they can disobey certain laws and have Brent look out for them in such a case?
Editors note: Insulting lie deleted. It has been covered previously.
Clover, you advocate the disobedience of the rules of right of way, lane discipline, and basic courtesy. You advocate driving that is lazy where safety derives from other people instead of one’s self. You advocate interfering with other drivers and demanding they avoid. You demand that everyone go slow so that when the avoidance doesn’t work it doesn’t hurt so bad. You advocate for sloppy driving. You want the rules to be flexible so that people like you aren’t punished with so much as horn blast for your errors let alone a ticket but people you don’t like are severely punished for the same move. Just as you here declared a move illegal you declared legal previously.
I and and sensible people expect not only the right of way rules be followed but for the government to follow the law. The MUTCD requires 85th percentile speed limits. Yet government often refuses to follow this even though the MUTCD is incorporated into state law. They’ll also ignore the proper way of setting speed limits and institute statutory maximums.
So Clover, in the end you advocate ignoring the laws, the rules that make for good traffic flow and keep people from being on collision courses while I simply advocate that a number on a sign be set to what 70 or so years of engineering experience says it should be set to and in other cases simply not put up in the first place.
Of course you don’t have the mental capacity to understand the difference between rule of right of way and choosing a scalar value so I know I’ve typed this for nothing in your case.
I do find it endlessly amusing when people like you demand a zero tolerance or end up with camera enforcement and then get ticketed by a system that can’t tell Susie Soccermom from a black male teenager in hooptie and tickets both of them equally. This I feel is the reason why camera enforcement has never won when put to a vote of the people. Ever. Not just because it’s simply revenue gathering theft but because it doesn’t play favorites. The clovers don’t get a pass from the camera.
Bent, you did not answer my question. Since you break the laws and this cause confrontation with other vehicles who is right? It is obvious from your videos that the way that you drive is dangerous. Why promote a more dangerous way of driving?
You have a 100 times more chance in getting in an accident than I do. Who is right?
Editor’s note: More repetition of previously covered material and insults deleted.
Clover, your question was answered.
I broke no laws in that video. I’ve been over it at length. You bring nothing new in. Just the same old crap I’ve already pounded into the oblivion with facts and logic.
What is “dangerous” is drivers like you, the ones featured in these videos. You argue that I should drive the way they do, that is violate the law and follow the social rules of ‘avoid’ and don’t bother worrying about what ever is behind. Well Clover, that would be fine and dandy for me to do (even though it’s counterproductive efficiency wise) if and only if there weren’t any written rules. But there are written rules and your kind uses a government to enforce them on anyone whom is for whatever reason outside a narrow little “hassle free zone”. Since I am not going to conform to the “hassle free zone” I have to follow the -written- rules.
You have a 100 times more chance in getting in an accident than I do.
And yet, I’m not. I go out on a bicycle the same way I drive. Think about that Clover. A bicycle. No protection. I’m still here. I’ve been bicycling vehicularly for 16 years. If it wasn’t safer I wouldn’t be here to type this. Your social rules that apply to some people some of the time are very unsafe because everything is a social calculation. You make that clear in this thread where what you said was legal before you suddenly say is illegal in this one. You have no guiding principles, no fixed rules of right of way. It’s might makes right and who’s nose is further down the road, and all sorts of other social bullshit you’ve pasted together in your head. The conflict comes when someone like me is following the written rules and some clover thinks he can do whatever sloppy lazy crap he wants and threatens a collision to make me avoid him so he can get his way.
Brent you are still alive by driving a bicycle because you are then not driving your car. One of the worst and most dangerous car drivers on the road is now not able to hurt or kill others including yourself. Stay on your bicycle.
*yawn*
You need better trolls. Perhaps ones that make sense.
BrentP,
A better troll would be somewhere else. One troll is one troll too many.
The resident troll is obvious as government is corrupt. Only good thing is that he is not as potentially harmful as government.
Brent did you happen to see those dashed lines at the front of the right turn lane? That is where it is legal to move right and into the lane. Something you do not let other drivers do. That is not a passing zone. The second thing we saw was the semi was not tailgating. If he was he would have passed many seconds earlier. Seems to me that other drivers know how to drive. They are not you.
In many states it is illegal to cross a solid white line. The area where one should get into a turn lane is before the solid white line starts. Dashes are usually ok to cross.
The rest of your comment is not constructive to this discussion.
The point is that Clover just posted the exact opposite of what Clover posted in the prior thread.
Notice how Clover has no principle. In the previous thread the driver of the black car crosses the solid white line of the turn lane and Clover blames me for what happens when the driver of the black car cuts me off. Clover even claimed incorrectly in that thread that the solid white line is the start of the turn lane and where one should enter it. Notice how Clover throws all that under the bus. No principle. Clover is about one thing, emotion. Clover doesn’t like me so in each instance Clover creates new constructs based on that. There is no driving principle for Clover. Only social hierarchy and emotion.
That truck was more than close enough to be unable to stop Clover. Something that you can’t figure out is that semi tractor trailer trucks don’t stop as fast performance passenger vehicles.
It does not really matter what you make up Brent. The fact is the driver had every right to make his move into the left turn lane but you tried to cut him off because he passed you earlier. Your road rage caused you to tailgate and try to pass him and try to cut him off even when he was signaling to go left. It was entirely your fault.
I’ve made up nothing, that’s your realm where you introduce fantasies like a toddler would, hence your “rage” theory. Again Clover, my car is so much more powerful than his if I had had ‘rage’ this video wouldn’t exist. Of course logic is not something you have.
Your lack of principle and desire to do everything socially would be amusing if it wasn’t a widespread sickness bringing down everything around us.
The fact of the matter is you have reversed yourself entirely between these two videos because you don’t have any principles. Just feelings. You don’t like me so you must reconstruct the law on the fly to make it both illegal and legal to cross the solid white line and cut off a driver already established in the turn lane.
Brent it is your principles of road rage and aggressive driving that is the widespread sickness that you exhibit.
It is all your fault in this case. Number one thing was tailgating, the second thing is the need to pass before there were even two lanes to do so, the third thing is road rage because the guy passed you so you had to get back at him, the fourth thing is your need to pass above all else even when you should be slowing to stop ahead in the first place. If any of these things were not done by you this would not have happened. You blame the guy because he was making a legal move to go into the left turn lane? You are beyond my understanding. You sound like a 4 year old trying to blame others when you were the one at fault.
I notice how Clover ignores what I posted for re-runs. This is the last re-run Clover.
Brent it is your principles of road rage and aggressive driving that is the widespread sickness that you exhibit.
Clover “feels” there is rage because that’s what Clover feels. It’s simple projection and assumption on Clover’s part there is no evidence of any of it. Well except perhaps the TV news version of road rage where they go out on the road and act rude to people and when some other driver so much as honks a horn they declare it proof of “road rage”. To a clover any reaction to their crappy, lazy, self centered driver is “rage” of the other driver. 99% of the time or so it’s merely a reaction to their crappy, lazy, self centered driving with no strong emotions behind it. Our Clover here is all about bringing rage out in people like any troll is, and read of it’s insult laden posts clearly designed to anger and frustrate shows that Clover enjoys bringing out anger and rage in other people. This is why I suspect Clover drives with intent to anger other people.
It is all your fault in this case.
It’s always my fault in the eyes of Clover here, because Clover doesn’t like me. It is a commandment of cloverism that whomever is least liked or least popular is at fault, guilty, etc. It’s always “who” a person is in clover world. This is why there is a treasury secretary who is still walking free while if I had simply made an error and not paid taxes on my salary the clovers would have me in prison or owing so much in penalties I’d be a slave to the IRS for the rest of my life. But clovers love their political masters so they forgive them of these transgressions. That’s also how big banks get bailouts but the Bailey Savings and Loan gets closed down and George Bailey goes to prison for a small error.
Number one thing was tailgating
No one was tailgated in this video or the other one. Repeating it over and over again doesn’t make it true. I’ve gone over it and the law says “reasonable and prudent”. That means being able to avoid. Which I did. Even when he changed lanes and cut me off. Repeating this over and over again is clearly designed to create feelings of frustration and anger. Why do you go out into public trying to anger people Clover? Does that make you feel better about yourself?
the second thing is the need to pass before there were even two lanes to do so,
Once again this is Clover feeling and projecting. I simply traveling my pace in another lane which began at an earlier point as cited by a US federal government figure which Clover ignores. Of course for this video Clover agrees that the turn lane starts further back. Why? Because in this video I am not in the turn lane, but in the position of the driver of the black car in the previous video. No principle, just feelings, that’s cloverism.
the third thing is road rage because the guy passed you so you had to get back at him, the fourth thing is your need to pass above all else even when you should be slowing to stop ahead in the first place.
This Clover’s fantasy. Clover has no evidence of such motivations. The fact that I had all the opportunity and horsepower to prevent a pass or make one and did not do so should indicate I didn’t care about it at all. But not to Clover’s imagination and feelings. It is this which clovers construct their illusionary world. Sadly they do not limit it to internet trolling but use it in world affairs bringing about needless wars and the deaths of millions of people.
You blame the guy because he was making a legal move to go into the left turn lane?
I have cited the two laws he violated. You even stated yourself, to this video, that it is illegal to cross over the solid white line and cut someone off who is already in the turn lane. Yet that’s exactly what the driver of the black car in the previous video did. No principles for a clover. Just feelings based on whom the clover likes and dislikes. Clover dislikes me, so the law mysteriously changes between videos in Clover’s mind to keep constant Clover’s dislike for me.
You are beyond my understanding.
That’s because principle and logic are beyond your understanding. You are simply a ball animal emotions without the capacity for logic and principle that sets humans above the animals. You are livestock.
You sound like a 4 year old trying to blame others when you were the one at fault.
Isn’t it amusing how when I post an insight into cloverism, Clover here then projects it on me. It’s amazing how the troll has no creativity of its own. Sad really.
Good night Clover. The above topics are closed. I will not discuss them further. I am tired of repeating myself. You offer no counter point to what I presented many posts ago, you just re-iterate the same declarations from your imagination.
Brent you are a true idiot. You were following the car in front of you by less than 1 second. At one second it is impossible for you to stop if the driver in front needed to. That is called tailgating all over the world. Not in Brent’s mind though. He does not even follow his own state’s rules of the road. That believe it or not makes it your fault and you were the one that does not follow rules or laws! I agree with you. We should discipline and possibly jail all that break laws. We can start with you.
Clover, I have covered this at length. You have nothing new. Repeating the same declaration over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again doesn’t improve your argument. It simply makes you a troll looking to frustrate and aggravate. You seem to enjoy trying to frustrate and anger people. You must do so on the road too.
As shown previously, no laws were broken as no following time is specified in the law, he was in a different lane, and he cut me off and I still avoided him.
Go watch ‘nick at night’ for re-runs. I’m not doing them for you Clover.
So you are saying Illinois has no tailgating law?
Illinois has speed limit laws and it is right on the sign. You ignore that too.
Explain to us all how it is possible that you seem to have a run-in with other vehicles weekly and I and hundreds of millions of drivers have non in a year? Could it be that tailgating law you ignore?
Clover, I am going to say this not out of anger but out of observation. You are despicable. You do things for only the purpose of frustrating and aggravating other people. I have absolutely no doubt that you drive with the that same purpose. This is why you are obsessed with “rage”. It’s why you put so much significance on the horn. You go around angering people on purpose. It’s how you get your jollies. You’re sick. Mentally ill.
I have been over the Illinois following distance law at length repeatedly. You do not respond to my arguments you simply re-iterate the same thing I already responded to over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Go see what I’ve already written since you failed to read it.
As to the speed limit, as I have told you many many many many many times before that I can’t do five or ten over the way you clovers do or I would get a ticket most everywhere I drive.
Explain to us all how it is possible that you seem to have a run-in with other vehicles weekly and I and hundreds of millions of drivers have non in a year? Could it be that tailgating law you ignore?
I answered this query earlier. Go read it and stop being a repetitive troll.
yes Brent you answered it before and I did not like your answer. You said it was Brent the enforcer at work. If someone does something that you do not like, lawful or not, you give them the wrath of Brent. The road rager from hell will get them.
I don’t care if you like my answer or not. You’re not getting reruns or another. You can choose to either accept it or formulate a logical and rational response. But you won’t (because you can’t I think) do that so you just repeat the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and I’m done with this troll game of yours.
You want to bring out anger. You’re not going to get it. Go out on the highway and piss people off the way you know how. Go do it to a cop.
You said it was Brent the enforcer at work. If someone does something that you do not like, lawful or not, you give them the wrath of Brent. The road rager from hell will get them.
I stated nothing of the sort. You lie. Again.
Brent you said the guy tried to cut you off? He was in front making a legal left turn and you should not have been even close. He cut you off? What a joke. Are you really that ignorant? He signaled well before the sign saying there was a left turn lane. He was moving towards the left turn lane before there was any markings what so ever. Explain to us all how that is cutting you off!
Is it possible that he did not even know there was a left turn lane until he got closer to the markings? Do you say that only people that drive that road every day are allowed to make a left turn!
That is your road rage explanation. That is exactly how aggressive drivers cause accidents. You are a jerk.
See previous posts.
You know I love a good banter as much as the next guy, but this really has gone on. Clover is 1) clearing in full troll mode, and I’ve said before, not very good at it or 2) just plan a clover and cannot see the logic. Either way, I don’t know why you continue to respond Brent. You’re hitting your head against the wall. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching it, but you are the one with the headache. Bout time you cut this dude off or ignored him. To clover…step up your game if you’re trolling. It’s more fun when the trolling appears to have a point and you don’t countlessly repeat the same “points”.
It was amusing at first. It allowed discussion of various things. Then it proved the point that Clover here likely uses the roadway the same way as the internet. To intentionally anger and frustrate other people. Now it’s just repetition and the only reply will be ‘see previous posts’.
Damon, do you have as many run-ins with other drivers that Brent has? Have you ever seen so many run-ins that Brent has shown? What is your opinion of his driving? Do you agree with the aggressive driving that causes all of this?
Notice the loaded question at the end.
I believe I’ve been over the rest previously including that it has taken 5 or so years to amass these videos.
Maybe Clover would like to drive me around for a month. I’ll take video of the experience. We’ll watch all the run-ins Clover has but never recognizes because Clover doesn’t care about anything that’s behind the A-pillar of Clover’s car.
Drop dead Brent. Loaded question? I never get within 30 feet of another vehicle except at a stop light. It is obvious that your driving causes a lot of problems. Name me one person that has as many problems that you have? It is your poor driving that is the problem.
Just about everyone I know around here does. Well everyone who isn’t a clover or a troll and I try not to associate with clovers and trolls.
By the way, a loaded question is where you place your own negative adjectives on something as you did with the question I called loaded. You can’t be so stupid as to not know what you were doing there troll. Thus I assume this stupidity you demonstrate and acting offended is simply more of the troll act.
Damon is free to answer his own question. You say everyone around you has problems. You must mean everyone around your car does. Yes when you get in a larger population area you will have more people that drive like Brent. Those are the ones that should be in jail. I could care less if you say I ask loaded questions. I asked him if he approves of your dangerous driving. That is stating the truth and asking if he agrees with you doing it. Maybe we should all just carry big guns for when your type of driver gets close to try and kill us.
Notice how Clover is always about violence and rage and then projects it on me.
Clover, in an armed society you won’t be able to troll on the road any more. You won’t be able to cut off other drivers or change lanes into the side of their car or intentionally block their progress and then claim to be the victim if the object of your trolling and sloppy, rude, lazy driving so much as objects with using the horn. You will be rightfully seen as the aggressor you are. The people who are not passive and submissive but not aggressive either, the porcupines, would be empowered.
See, many people are pushed into being passive and submissive because they are afraid that the rude driver that just changed lanes into the side of their car is armed. They are afraid that person will flip out. So they are submissive to your lazy rude driving. When they can be armed legally, when they can defend themselves, they won’t be so submissive. They will become porcupines. You and your kind would have to learn to behave and follow the written rules instead of counting on other drivers just letting you do it.
Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.
Clover,
You apparently drive in the middle of nowhere USA.
Do people know you by reputation that they give you a minimum 30ft radius circle at all times to avoid you?
If you drive in the northeastern US it is common to see many events similar to what has been shown on this site.
My understanding is that BrentP drives in the midwest near Chicago. This is my loss. If I had attentive drivers similar to BrentP near me, driving would be less stressful in the northeast.
When did you start inciting violence? (example of a loaded question)
You add very little if anything constructive to this discussion. I think it is time for you to troll, troll, troll away.
mithrandir when did I start inciting violence? I am not the guy on the road that has a road rage fit for someone that slows down for the car in front of them that tries to keep from tailgating. Brent was furious with the guy in front of him because he slowed down so he was not be tailgating the car in front. Who is the violent person? Brent was furious for a guy making a legal left turn. Where is the violence in that. Is Brent your idol? Do you bow down to a person who takes pride in enforcing others with his road rage and tries to scare the hell out of other drivers. Explain to me how that is a good thing? You think there needs to be more violent people like that on our roadways?
The thing that makes me mad is someone that endangers others. You think it is a good thing to endanger others? Brent was furious because he said the guy cut him off. Cut him off from what? He should have been slowing to stop ahead but instead of that he was too busy with his road rage.
Do you actually think Brent is a better person to have on this earth?
You use violent language in nearly every post.
Putting aside the obvious lies and trolling, where is your evidence of my emotional state Clover?
Oh wait, you don’t have any. You make it all up.
But where are these detailed fantasies of yours coming from?
They come from your own emotional state. It’s why you troll. You imagine someone becoming enraged. It’s why you troll here and why you troll on the road.
Clover,
mithrandir when did I start inciting violence?
Read your previous posts.
Brent you say that I use violent language. You show violence to others when you feel like it no matter if they did anything wrong or not. Yes I believe we should have violent language against people like that. People that endanger others on purpose deserve more than violent language in my opinion. At a bare minimum they deserve jail time.
You’re lying again Clover. I am just driving down the road minding my own business. I don’t so much as change speed let alone lanes until others rudely force me to. Of course in your ass-backwards view of the world, what you consider showing insufficient submission becomes ‘showing violence’. It’s not.
Why do you want such submission? Are you too much of a pussy to carry out your threats of violence against others? You want to threaten crashes with your driving unless other people get out of your way. You demand they get out of your way and when they don’t you attribute “rage” to them. It’s a political farce, an upside down 1984ish language you use. It’s a con. Simply put you are a very violent angry person who demands other people be submissive and you’ll lie and twist and spin things to achieve that.
Now the question is, are you someone that enjoys dominating others or are you the kind of crab that exists to pull other people down? You yourself don’t have the balls to stand up for yourself so you attack those that do.
Brent you say that I use violent language.
Your words speak for themselves. Read your previous posts.
Brent in one of your last videos a guy was minding his own business, driving safely at a proper distance from the car in front of him, he makes a legal move towards the left turn lane and you come up from behind him and try to kill him. Someone like you needs to be off the road.
In another incident a car was passing another car buy somewhere around 5 mph or even more faster and I am sure was doing well over the speed limit. You switch lanes and come up behind him and tailgate him and blind him with your headlights and it almost caused an accident. Just another example of you using your own laws and endanger and threaten other drivers. Get a gun and use it on yourself. If the only joy in your life is to threaten other drivers that are driving correctly then you need to be off the road.
It’s amazing the fantasies you create around things.
See previous posts for why you are wrong.
Once again you invoke violence.
Clover,
I can’t speak to the number of run-ins Brent has. I don’t know him and can only judge by the number of videos posted, however, given his statement that these were assembled over some period of time, that’s a useless yardstick. I can only speak of my experience. I live in the Mid Atlantic and experience similar behavior often.
I saw someone in the left land of a two lane road doing below the speed limit blocking and slowing traffic yesterday afternoon for no apparent reason.
I routinely see folks drift into other lanes because they are not paying attention–usually on cell phones.
I’ve personally had someone pull out in front of me from a secondary street AFTER LOOKING right at me.
My ex had someone blow through a red light and push her into parked cars at the other end of the intersection.
A close friend was walking in a secluded neighborhood and a resident struck her with an suv because she was backing out of the drive way and not paying attention.
I’ve seen people race up on a lane that is ending to try and get ahead of me in traffic (I was in the through lane), then slam on their breaks after getting in front of me because the traffic slowed–this nearly caused me to rear end them.
I’ve seen people speeding and weaving in and out of dense traffic. It’s not the speeding that’s the problem; it’s the constant lane changes back and forth.
I’ve seen people in the left land refuse to move right when being overtaken by faster cars.
I’ve seen people stop at the end of a merge lane entering a highway and “wait” with their blinker on for someone to let them on to the highway. Hard for someone to “let” someone in who’s doing zero while prevailing traffic is moving at 60.
Aggressive driving. I don’t define aggressive driving like it’s conventionally understood. I don’t agree that speeding is aggressive driving. Weaving in and out of traffic is. Failure to yield right of way is aggressive driving. The problem as I see it is that people do not pay attention to their driving, they do not know the rules of the road, like right of way, they do not know what “merge” means, and they do care. Those are the unsafe and dangerous people on the roads.
Nice post Damon but you did not exactly post anything positive about Brent’s actions. He continuously switches lanes. He wants to make other drivers come to a stop because he makes sure he changes speed so that he is where other cars are merging. It is a game to him. The only joy in his life.
Brent fails to follow any rules of the road. He says following someone at less than a second is not tailgating? He fails to yield when someone uses his turn signal and is in front of him. Since he tailgates it is easy for him to cut someone off from behind if they want to turn or switch lanes. He fails to allow anyone to merge. People are supposed to adjust to anything that Brent does so to avoid an accident they have to stop in the merge lane. Someone like him stays in the right lane so there is no room for someone to merge.
You say that some people do not pay attention while driving and that is a problem. I can agree with that. I do not agree that we need a person that drives dangerously on purpose like Brent does. He does everything possible to make everyone else have run-ins with him. I have had no run-ins with other drivers. Brent has had many. Those videos were not taken over decades of time. They are all recent. Anyone that has that many problems should not be driving.
What a delusional little world you’ve created for yourself. It’s amazing not only how you tell yourself lies until you believe them but how you don’t even read or understand the written rules. Instead you have made up rules like ‘yield for a turn signal’. There’s no such law Clover. It’s something you’ve made up. With made up ideas like yours you must have countless ‘run-ins’ with drivers who follow the written rules, unless you live in clover-ville or in some place where nobody else is on the road.
You should mount a backwards facing camera in your car. You probably have dozens of run-in’s you just don’t see them.
How many run-ins and near accidents have you had Brent? How many do you think I have had? With the facts that are evident who do you think needs to be off of our highways?
Near accidents? None. You clovers drive the way you do on purpose.
How many you’ve had depends on your driving environment and if you troll on the road as I suspect you do.
Trolls and clovers need to removed from our highways.
Finally I agree with you on something Brent. I agree the number of run-ins you have with other drivers depends on your environment, more exactly, any environment that you are in. Your actions cause all the problems. You enjoy it though. Your life would be worthless without scaring the hell out of other drivers and endangering many more.
Another content free post from Clover designed to generate anger. I can feel the frustration you have by not generating anger on my part. If you can’t troll me here, why would you think your trolling on the road would work?
Brent your videos and your statements back up what I have said. In short, you say that if someone does not drive the way you think they should you are going to make them know it. You say that it is fine to pull within inches of someone and stand on your horn. You say that such an action makes them a better driver. Such an action can also lead to death. Someone can lose control or you can even hit them with a miscalculation. If this happens I hope they give you the book and lock you away forever.
What a bunch of twisting.
See previous posts for what I actually wrote. But I’ll give a summary:
If you make me or someone else avoid you Clover, you don’t get to choose how it is done. You’ve decided to take a pass with regards to putting effort into driving. Now it’s up to someone else. If you don’t like how I or anyone else avoids you, then don’t make others avoid you. That’s the thought that never crosses your mind. How to drive without forcing others to avoid you. That’s why you’re a clover, Clover. You’re lazy and want others to cater to you. Now go try making a semi-tractor-trailer truck driver avoid you and see how it works out. Maybe you could start pretending every vehicle is a semi truck, then you’ll start driving in a way that treats other people with real courtesy.
Brent you say you complain about having to avoid the clovers. If you would not be breaking the laws and common driving practices you would not have to avoid the clovers because you would not be on their tail to begin with. You say that you have to avoid clovers but at the same time you say that clovers have to avoid you no matter how unlawful or stupid your driving is or they have to deal with the wrath of Brent. You are the lazy driver. Other drivers do not get close to other drivers but you are not able to stay away from other drivers. It is a game to you so that you are able to show your road rage. If you say that others have problems too, not just you, then we would see all those confrontations on video but it only seems to be you that has problems. It is your poor driving.
Clover lies again.
See previous post where what I actually wrote is and these “points” of Clover’s were addressed previously.
Cover,
I didn’t post anything positive OR negative about Brent’s driving. First, the videos on this site cannot be considered a representative sample of his driving. The videos are designed to capture other driver’s behavior. Second, I cannot judge speed from these videos well, so any opinion I form has no real basis other than what I FEEL, and feelings are irrelevant to FACTS. A proper analysis of Brent’s driving behavior would require the following, at a minimum, for every situation:
Knowing the speed zone limit (this would have to be on the video for independent confirmation)
Continual recording of Brent’s speedometer in the video
The relevant action happening on the road showing other driver’s actions.
Lots, lots more, video….
I will say, however, that the video of the “left turn cutoff” was 100% not his fault. He was in the turn lane, someone cut him off. I’ve already commented on why that guy was wrong and so have others.
Damon you say that Brent was cut off. I will agree with that. He was cut off from trying to cut the other driver off from making a legal left turn. The other driver was in front he made a legal move to the left turn lane and the only way it was possible for someone else to be there is for someone that is driving aggressively and at the same time was tailgating. The laws that were broken are what caused this and it was Brent that did it. You do not need a speedometer present to tell that Brent was wrong.
I do disagree with you when you said that you can not tell much from the videos without the speedometer shown. You can judge speed very well in the videos and you can also judge speed comparing to other drivers in the video. If you have multiple lanes and even according to Brent everyone drives the speed limit or more, when he is passing other vehicles by many miles per hour in the right lane you know he had to be doing at least 15 to 20 mph over the limit in the right lane and passing other vehicles. If you take all the information in the videos with you can come very close to the FACTS as you say. Stripes on the road are standard lengths and the lengths of cars are pretty standard within a foot or two and you can determine that from the model of the vehicle. You can determine that he is driving less than a second from the vehicle in front of him.
The FACTS are against Brent.
If you believe that exceeding the speed posted on a sign justifies cutting that driver off, why don’t you go cut off the next semi tractor trailer truck that is exceeding the posted limit?
The rest of your post is simply irrelevant or previously discussed. See previous posts.
BTW, my following distance is longer than average around here, as clearly demonstrated to you.
Brent in your videos you have pictures of hundreds if not thousands of cars that are NOT tailgating. Some people kill others. Does that make it right and OK for you to do the same? Driving dangerously and poorly is not an excuse for others to do the same.
I am a very good driver who does not have confrontations and near accidents with car or trucks or semis. We can only hope that you try your stunts with a big truck.
Yes, they aren’t tailgating, and most of them have smaller following distances.
My stunts? You mean how I choose to avoid drivers who cut me off and such. Sure. No problem. The trucks are big and slow and usually easier to avoid when driven badly.
I want to see you do exactly what these drivers you defended did to me, except you do it to a semi truck driver. Why don’t you put your interpretation of the law and good driving to the test with a professional driver? See if he can avoid and doesn’t use his horn.
Why won’t you do it Clover?
I understand now Brent. You are able to keep away from big trucks but you are poor at keeping away from cars. You are so poor you should not be on the highway.
Maybe it is just that you respect trucks and at least are smart enough not to try anything with them. Cars you feel it is safe enough to use your road rage on particularly if you are behind them.
Again, you have a huge amount of run-ins and close calls each year. Why is that? Do all drivers in Chicago have dozens of run-ins with other drivers? I already know that they do not. What does that say about your driving if you have a hard time with it?
Lame troll. I avoid contacting your brethren just fine as you have seen. You just don’t like how I do it because you don’t find it submissive enough nor does it make lazy driving comfortable for your brethren. That’s too bad. If you don’t like how other drivers may avoid you, then don’t make other drivers avoid you. Simple as that.
Everyone (who isn’t a clover or some other form of lower form of driver) has just as many ‘run ins’ as I do per mile in the same environment. They may choose to make things comfortable for the other driver, they may not. But the run in still happens. I posted a video today of a ‘run in’ I was not involved in. The driver hits the brakes because some jackass was coming out of the turn lane and trying to shove his way in. I’ve shown you other videos of run ins I was not involved in. I showed you a driver that pulled out right in front of another driver. I showed you congalining left turners in front of drivers who were in front of me. All of these run-ins I had no involvement in except as an observer. Now I don’t capture these videos often because it usually happens too far away from me or too far off camera to make a good video, but once in awhile it does.
Wrong clover,
Brent moved into the left turn lane as soon as that turn lane was available. No, it was the car in front of him, most likely, not paying attention, than then decided to move left in front of brent. That’s clean, he breaked for the light, realized he wanted to be in the left turn lane, signaled, and moved left at the same time, nearly causing an accident. Brent, being in the correct lane had RIGHT OF WAY.
Second, my opinion on Brent’s driving is that. You may be of the opinion he drives too fast, whatever. My opinion is that I cannot judge the speed well enough to form an opinion. Do not EVER attempt to twist my writing again.